you can take that talent and apply it to something worthy of your investment in time and energy. >> you think it is fair to say the push to the moon, interest in nasa all in some way led to the computer and information revolution. >> there are people that say that would have happened any way. there are certain facts that are undeniable. the search to minimize electronics. no one was saying, i want to carry a tv in my hip pocket. it is a nonthought. when you launch something this to space, electronics of any matter, weight matters. it is costly to put it in to orbit. the minturization of electronics got a jolt of interest by the early space age. then once you see it is miniaturized, all of a sudden a new world of consumer electro c electronics opens up that was unimagined and dreamt of bmplt so, yes. in the urge to find an economic justification is honorable but not the biggest reason to do this. the reason is the culture it innovates foosters an invasion nation. everyone is thinking about it. innovation becomes just what you do. i don't know that you can put a price tag on that. >> if y